
Post by Uncle Buddy on Mar 5, 2015 20:15:44 GMT 8
Jack, that is fascinating. 2/7 is used in air calculations, as is 5/7 or 0.71.
I have a whole 'nother life as a numerologist, one thing I hope to get done during this lifetime is to put up a website to show what I learned about number fields a long time ago. You know how, in numerology, 17 = 8, 10 = 1, etc. this pattern can be used to generate an infinite field of numbers from any string of numbers.
By the way, the man who told me about Neal was very impressed by the number 7 and he was sure that Neal's 7th harmonic or whatever it was had some significance.
In piano design, the felt hammer is made to strike the piano string (wire) at a point that deadens the 7th harmonic, since it is the first harmonic in the harmonic series that is unmusical, doesn't form a pleasing chord with the other harmonics. Noise vs. music.



Post by tommy on Mar 6, 2015 19:42:27 GMT 8
You are freaking me out here!!! 7/5 is the magic number used in nearly all air calculations. This merits some thought, the first part about the 1/7 , 2/7 etc. compared to Neal? ?



Post by Uncle Buddy on Mar 6, 2015 22:22:32 GMT 8
7/5 is the magic number used in nearly all air calculations. Since 7/5 or 1.4 is the index of air, the number that tells us what it will do under compression or expansion due to the influence of heat... Equate 7/5 to 1. In other words: "the index of air = the primordial sacred unit of air = 1" In other words, 5/5 is not the important number, so let's make 7/5 the UNIT by which other things are compared. This is interesting to the current discussion since 7/5 refers to a collection of 7 identical parts. If 7/5 = 1, then...set it up like this: n/(7/5) = y/1 n can be 1 (isothermal process); n can be 1.4 (adiabatic process); or anywhere in between. This defines a range of possible values for n. 1.4 >= n >= 1 1.35/(7/5) = y/1 y = 0.96 or 96% or .96 x 1 or .96 of 1 If n = 1, then y = (5/7)/1, the reciprocal of the Unit. 5/7 = 0.71 2/7 = 0.29 These numbers are all used in air calculations. I don't know what to make of it. I can't imagine that Neal's 1:7 ratio is meaningful, but it is important to take the mind on a picnic from time to time. There is relevant information about these air ratios in Compressed Air Power Secrets, the section on adiabatic compression.



Post by jjackson123 on Mar 7, 2015 9:24:54 GMT 8
1/7 of 360 is also the slope of most ancient pyramids and relates to many of my investigations into free universal energies as well as "the golden mean". We are seeking "the recipe" for neal and others which involves the proper ingredients and proportions at the proper temperatures and flows to make it work.



Post by Uncle Buddy on Mar 10, 2015 19:17:09 GMT 8
As regards Neal and this thread, I still question which flowengine exhaust or compressor dischargeshould be drive and which should be entrained.
Compressor discharge has a lower median pressure but its pulses have a higher maximum pressure.
Engine exhaust has a (much?) higher median pressure and somewhat(?) lower max pressure due to pulsation.
Pressure of engine exhaust is not dependent on acoustic phenomena, and it is still pulsatory. And the pulsations are in tune as a 7th subharmonic of the mechanical pulsations from the compressor. Assuming that machine/piston frequency is still meant to be some subharmonic of the pipe/resonance frequency in order to assist resonance rather than subtract from it.
I think since it has so long been our focus to generate pressure with acoustics in the compressor discharge, it is tempting to now want to use that pressure to run the injector also. I think this is backwards. The pressure has been generated, enough to get into the tank according to theory, but this is only peak pressure. Whereas a relatively steady flow of air with a median pressure almost up to tank pressure is available from engine exhaust.
Also, tank air is available so a multistage injector could be made with 1) engine exhaust heated then entraining compressor discharge, 2) tank air heated then entraining the mixture from step 1.



Post by tommy on Mar 13, 2015 9:31:56 GMT 8
As regards Neal and this thread, I still question which flowengine exhaust or compressor dischargeshould be drive and which should be entrained. Compressor discharge has a lower median pressure but its pulses have a higher maximum pressure. Engine exhaust has a (much?) higher median pressure and somewhat(?) lower max pressure due to pulsation. Pressure of engine exhaust is not dependent on acoustic phenomena, and it is still pulsatory. And the pulsations are in tune as a 7th subharmonic of the mechanical pulsations from the compressor. Assuming that machine/piston frequency is still meant to be some subharmonic of the pipe/resonance frequency in order to assist resonance rather than subtract from it. I think since it has so long been our focus to generate pressure with acoustics in the compressor discharge, it is tempting to now want to use that pressure to run the injector also. I think this is backwards. The pressure has been generated, enough to get into the tank according to theory, but this is only peak pressure. Whereas a relatively steady flow of air with a median pressure almost up to tank pressure is available from engine exhaust. Also, tank air is available so a multistage injector could be made with 1) engine exhaust heated then entraining compressor discharge, 2) tank air heated then entraining the mixture from step 1. Will try to concentrate on these questions. It is not easy to "see" all these actions occurring together. Will try to make some sketches. Hoping we can get this answered about the injector drive input. Seems there are only two possibilities here, so should be able to figure it out by seeing which one performs best or look for some other showstopper. I need a picture, am too thick to see it all in my mind.



Post by Uncle Buddy on Mar 13, 2015 16:54:10 GMT 8
Here is a sketch of what I propose. Attachments:



Post by tommy on Mar 13, 2015 21:03:31 GMT 8
For discussion purposes.
Neal has a electric preheater at the motor, so there must be some expansion through the motor even though the cutoff is nearly nonexistant.
Terminology, ejector / injector.....potato / potatoe.....all the same thing. Just providing fuel for discussion, hoping somebody can figure this part out.



Post by Uncle Buddy on Mar 14, 2015 0:30:45 GMT 8
Quick thoughts, will reread and comment further maybe tomorrow.
Y fitting, good. Maybe all that's needed, a mixing chamber of some kind, maybe with check valves/equalizers controlling in/out.
Existence of heater doesn't mean there has to be some cutoff. When you can generate additional air pressure with no moving parts and at a fraction of the cost, and resistance heating is 100% efficient (and/or compression heat is already there ready to be tapped)you'd have to have a reason NOT to heat the air. The reason TO heat the air is to increase the jet drive pressure for the injector.
Gotta go, el Kiddo must play computer games NOW!



Post by jjackson123 on Jun 22, 2015 15:49:41 GMT 8
The Neal engine is a kind of delta / theta cleverly balanced stirling style engine 

