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Post by jjackson123 on Jul 10, 2012 5:23:04 GMT -8
I've begun setting up a test rig to begin compressing air with air ?
Foolish or or confusing u may think ? I have a Haskell AAD-2 air amplifier that does this very thing! It amplifies the pressure of the air using air pressure. The test rig is meant to be an air flow amplifier that will run the pressure amp and hopefully my home (truck house trailer) I have most of what I need and am out of work and moolah so here we go let's git er done! If anyone needs any parts machined I have a small machine shop(yes in the truck house trailer) but don't call me trash cuz its a 4-axis Microproto CNC , I also have a 7x12 lathe . Ibought these machines to facilitate the prototyping of smart air compression ,as compressed air is the smartest , greenest power source imaginable!
I would really love to kick the smarts out of any engineering types that would dispute my claims of the masses of free energy we are immersed in ! Tesla grossly underestimated 6 million HP per acre! Any of u engineer types care to argue with him? Anyhoo Great forum and I hope to be passing on lots of info and results .
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Post by Uncle Buddy on Jul 10, 2012 18:26:10 GMT -8
What does an air amplifier do? Too bad you're out of money, I was gonna borrow some. Great news that you have a machine shop, that could come in handy. The CNC is a mill? I worked in a machine shop for a few months.
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Post by andyfl on Oct 29, 2012 17:11:15 GMT -8
I just saw this so even though I'm late, an air amplifier (at least 1 kind) is a tube where air at high pressure sucks in lower pressure air as it rushes past, presumably because of vacuum or air friction? One I was looking at said something about "coanda effect" but I couldn't tell you what that is. Supposedly they take a small stream of air and multiply it 20 times or so. Probably a good way to get low pressure air into a high pressure environment although I think they're made for blowing large volumes of air at atm pressure.
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Post by Uncle Buddy on Oct 30, 2012 1:43:28 GMT -8
The Coanda type won't put air into a high pressure but the venturi type might. There's a picture of one that's supposed to do such a thing in the Hiscox textbook. I think it's the vacuum chapter, not sure. If you can't find it I'll look, I have to look at it several times a year to convince myself it's really there, in black and white, in a real textbook.
Coanda is an inventor who discovered an air lift principle that can be used to make hovercraft and all kinds of stuff, a big topic. Someone who knows more about it than I should attempt a summary. Henri Coanda was French but got a bunch of US patents. There are some good articles about him in one of my books.
Possibly the term "air amplifier" is used for more than one kind of device, I wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by jjackson123 on Nov 22, 2012 16:28:53 GMT -8
An air (pessure)amplifier uses a large piston driving a smaller one to create a higher pressure like a second stage in a compressor. www.haskel.com/corp/details/0,,CLI1_DIV139_ETI9791,00.html |
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Post by Uncle Buddy on Nov 23, 2012 17:04:52 GMT -8
OK so that's pressure x area = force. Large area piston pushes with a certain force depending on relatively low pressure used. That resulting force then pushes a smaller area piston and the math ensures that the pressure made by smaller piston will be greater than the pressure used to make it.
There was a self-fueling air car patent using this phenomenon to transform a little high pressure air from the storage tank into a lot of low pressure air to run the car's engine. The patent was by Steve Hudspeth and John Lunsford. They had another patent on using regenerative shock absorbers.
The other kind of air amplifier that uses the Coanda effect is a volume amplifier, like a venturi.
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Post by jjackson123 on Nov 24, 2012 16:42:41 GMT -8
I've also had a yearning to apply the coanda type of air amplifier as an injection type of nozzle to increase the airflow in a tesla turbine . It works on paper and in my big ole head so I really don't see why not !?#
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Post by Uncle Buddy on Nov 24, 2012 22:36:54 GMT -8
I made a Tesla turbine once. Production would be cheap but getting it figured out is expensive like anything. Not AS expensive but still...I made my own without a machine shop and took the parts to a machinist to make it a unit. He had to do most of it over. It cost me $3000 and he was giving me a special rate because his name was Ivan--he was from Tesla's homeland. When it was done, I could stop the shaft with my hand.
Some things I didn't know about at the time.
I like the idea of directing a single jet into each gap. The guy who was doing that used a jeweler's drill to make the jets.
Sealing was a bad problem that I didn't solve and that was the death of the project, I had to stop pumping all my money and time into it and came short of tacking the problem head-on. There should be a labyrinth seal, not around the shaft but on the face of the turbine, between the rotor and the housing. The one I saw was made of phenolic wood or something, so if the two parts touched, it would harmlessly stop the rotor and only the seal would be damaged. With the kind of shaft speeds the turbine puts out, non-contact seals are probably needed.
I've seen several videos, I used to buy them before you tube came along, and even the best of them never mentioned how much power was put out or how much drive air was being used. They always just turned on a light bulb which isn't very impressive considering how much noise they make.
However I don't think Tesla was a liar. I think it can work good, but I stopped researching it around the time when I realized we have to be working on a new kind of compressor. It doesn't matter what kind of air engine we use.
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Post by jjackson123 on Nov 25, 2012 9:03:38 GMT -8
Believe I read about that experience on energetic forum or mabes somewhere else? Anyhoo I'm still working on my tesla type turbine along with all the rest , bedini energizers, my compressor design .....(I'll post some details on that in the proper spot tonight )
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Post by george on Mar 25, 2013 14:11:50 GMT -8
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Post by Uncle Buddy on Mar 25, 2013 18:34:08 GMT -8
George, thanks for straightening me out! I assumed he was French (?) because of how he spelled Henri. That means Romania gave us both Constantinesco and Coanda! Two of the greatest inventors who ever lived, both a hundred years ahead of their time. That tells you something about the US educational system, which disciplines us to Just Let Someone Else Figure it Out and go to the Mall instead of thinking up revolutionary inventions!
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Post by george on Mar 27, 2013 12:24:59 GMT -8
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Post by Uncle Buddy on Mar 27, 2013 17:03:02 GMT -8
Tesla too! Cool, but I must inform you that I, as a typical American, don't know where Romania is! I will look at a map right now and rectify that situation.
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Post by george on Mar 29, 2013 11:51:57 GMT -8
Tesla was Serbian.Serbia's neighbor Romania.
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Post by ct05b on Jan 19, 2016 0:34:03 GMT -8
There was a self-fueling air car patent using this phenomenon to transform a little high pressure air from the storage tank into a lot of low pressure air to run the car's engine. The patent was by Steve Hudspeth and John Lunsford. They had another patent on using regenerative shock absorbers. That's very clever idea. But I don't know yet how to use it... I'll have to google these patents... |
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